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Old Jun 10th, 07, 6:32 am   #11
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Re: How hard is it to DIY?

Since you want full control can I assume you intend on installing the countertops, sink and plumbing yourselves as well? If you're a first timer I really don't recommend you install an entire kitchen all by yourselves. If you've never done it before there's no such thing as nothing going wrong You'll be at it forever if you actually want to do it right.

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Old Jun 10th, 07, 11:48 am   #12
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Re: How hard is it to DIY?

I'm perfectly capable of hiring out some jobs, though now that you mention it, I have installed a kitchen sink and countertop before (and on my first try)...I don't really consider it surrendering control to hire a plumber to install a gas line to code.

I'm glad most Ikeans are supportive of the DIY effort since that's sort of the point of Ikea kitchens! The information y'all share is very valuable!

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Old Jun 10th, 07, 1:22 pm   #13
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Re: How hard is it to DIY?

Malena, i love your attitude!
And the brain trust here at ikeafans isn't the only impressive thing (imho) it's also that we strive to be the nicest place on the web!

and i think we're pretty funny too

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Old Jun 11th, 07, 12:50 am   #14
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I'm perfectly capable of hiring out some jobs, though now that you mention it, I have installed a kitchen sink and countertop before (and on my first try)...I don't really consider it surrendering control to hire a plumber to install a gas line to code.

I'm glad most Ikeans are supportive of the DIY effort since that's sort of the point of Ikea kitchens! The information y'all share is very valuable!
Well if you want me to tell you you can do it faster than a contractor who does it for a living I can certainly do that but if you want an honest opinion that's what I've given.

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Old Jun 11th, 07, 2:37 pm   #15
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Well if you want me to tell you you can do it faster than a contractor who does it for a living I can certainly do that but if you want an honest opinion that's what I've given.
For different meanings of "faster".... Can an Ikea-experienced contracter literally build and install cabinets faster, once on site? Do skilled jobs like plumbing, tiling, etc. "faster"? Probably! BUT...will he or she show up tomorrow if you call today? Will he/she work at 2am "just because"? Will he work around your schedule or will you work around her schedule?

We hired out electrical, plumbing, and venting-- and that work played a large role in slowing us down overall. Not because the folks who showed up were inefficient, but because they could only come next Tuesday for three hours and then they had a bigger job so the next slot was on the following Friday. And we needed this guy to do his thing before the next guy could do his thing which meant we had to wait to install the stove and then wait some more for the next guy....

You get the picture. If you're impatient, there's something to be said for just picking up the screwdriver and getting started! Not to mention the major money you'll save...

(But my husband is convinced we should have hired someone to do the tiling....I like to pretend otherwise 'cause I'm excessively frugal but he's probably right! Good thing the tiles are so pretty no matter what!)

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Old Jun 11th, 07, 3:41 pm   #16
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Re: How hard is it to DIY?

Count us in as DIYers. We hired out electrical (including an extensive rewire and box upgrade), the little bit of plumbing and the granite install. Everything else was DIY and though it seemed like it took forever, I'm so proud now of what we did.

I say to give it a try!

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Old Jun 11th, 07, 5:18 pm   #17
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Re: How hard is it to DIY?

Just adding my 2 cents (dollars or euros, whichever you prefer) concerning one specific aspect of DIY that I found out from experience (it has been hinted in a previous post): pride!
I've not had a technical training at all (I'm a DPsy), but I started putting ikea furniture together some 17 years ago (preparing for the arrival of my oldest ) and simply applied the pragmatic approach: buying at ikea simply meant that you would have to put it together yourself. So even though I screwed up a thing or two, in the end it would work out.
After I divorced and remarried my inlaws turned out to be a family where DIY was much more common, not so much because of their background (my father-in-law is a teacher and my mother-in-law a psy nurse) but their spirit was much more creative (my wife is an art director) and building things was something they took (and take) great pleasure in. I found that they managed to awake that spirit in me as well, and when the occasion occurred (my son was moving to the attic, which was just that: an attic with just the washer/dryer and nothing else) I offered to build him an appartment. It took me several weeks, but I learned to build walls, lay floors, basic wiring... my son was very pleased with the result and that made me feel very good about myself.
And then when we bought our current home/building site, where everything had to be redone, and money was not available in abundance after we bought the complex (mind you, no mortgage) I decided to go all the way and do most of the work myself. This meant not just basic DIY, but a complete overhaul of an entire two-story building, including replacing all wiring and electric installation, plumbing, heating, floors, ceilings... it's been two years and it's far from finished (I need to work from time to time ) but every effort, every drop of perspiration (and blood, that happens too) has had an immediate and lasting result, which is exactly why we engaged in this adventure in the first place. We bought the complex to be (or become) our corner of the world, and I've poured my soul into it (and lots of ikea furniture). I've made mistakes, I've gone over my head sometimes, and sometimes I sat and wondered why I'd gotten myself into it and how I would ever get the job done, but in the end (or up until now) it's all been worth it. For me, that's exactly what DIY is about; not so much saving money, doing it sooner or faster, but doing it myself. Making this house a better place is making a small part of the world a better place and making me a better person.

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