[hyedipin]

I guess we made a huge mistake, after spending $20k on two kitchens, we found out that the house does not have 220 volt electricity, only 110. I thought the Mumsig oven had variable input of 110-220v electricity, but it looks like it does not.. only 120-220v.
We bought the stuff about 4 months ago, I will try to talk to Ikea to see if they would take them back since they have never been used at all, just hooked up once..

Or is there anyone I can sell these somewhere?

[Tigratrus]

If it's just 220, that's not really impossible to fix at all, depending on the house. Basically you just have to run an additional wire from the panel to the outlet the oven plugs into and wire it up to a special outlet, like what a Clothes Dryer uses. I ran one for our Advantium, and while our neighbor (licensed electrician) checked it for us it works fine.

I'm not suggesting that you would want to DIY it, but it's not generally (again depending on the house) a really tough job for an electrician to run the wire and change the outlet from 110 to 220.

James

[hyedipin]

Thanks Tigratrus, but according to the electrician, we do not have 220v in the building... Unless they were lying to me to avoid doing additional work...

[Tigratrus]

Well, as I said, it depends on the house/building. But a 220 volt receptacle is really just wired to two separate 110 breakers where the wires are just attached to the receptacle so that they are in series. If you have the ability to add an additional breaker to the panel and run the wires from it to the existing outlet, the electrician should be able to replace that outlet with a 220 outlet instead of a 110.

There's probably a very valid reason that that can't be done (no empty slots on the panel for another breaker, no way to run new wires, the building doesn't allow that sort of change etc), but the simple answer that the building doesn't *have* 220 doesn't make sense. I'd suspect that the electrician is kinda "simplifying" things for you. Any panel with 110 can produce 220 (as far as I know), you just have to use 2 sets of conductors and wire up the outlet correctly.

It's kinda like saying that a Dollar doesn't *have* 2 fifty cent pieces in it... just 4 quarters .

Just for ref: How to Wire a 220v Outlet.

Has a write up and some diagrams. .

James

[hyedipin]

Thanks for the information, I am going to have to ask the electrician. The problem is, I really don't want to break the walls again, we had enough of that, but to think he didn't even try to do the 220 is mind blowing. What an idiot. He could have read the oven door where it says clearly 120-220v.
Anyway, There are already 3 empty slots in the circuit breaker box on my floor. I just don't know what to do with this. I don't think he can use the same wires to upgrade from 110 to 220.. Right? Plus, he did something weird to the power connection cable. He put it in a case with housing and metal type of pipe looking thing and screwed it to the wall, so we cannot just unplug the oven. We would have to turn the power off and then unscrew and pry/cut or disconnect however he connected that to the wall.

[Harpy]

I would call a different electrician.

[NBeth]

I think you have to resolve this because these appliances pretty much all take 220 I think.... AND they need high amps. bleh.

[hyedipin]

Yeah, I think 40 Amps. How do we know if I have 40 Amps?
I think the best way is to find a way to sell these, and then just get gas oven, but I don't think anyone sells Gas oven separately without the cook top.

[fisheggs]

No, there are definitely gas ovens that don't require a cooktop - I think it's actually less common for things to be sold as a set. Go to the sears website and you'll see a big selection- there are far fewer gas wall ovens than electric ones, of course.

You're still probably going to need to upgrade your electrical work and might want to talk to a new electrician. Do you have a gas line already? The work to install a new gas line vs. change from 220 to 110 v might be comparable.

[hyedipin]

There is a gas line already (being used on the cooktop), not a separate one, but I assume the available gas line can be split and be fed to both appliances?