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Old Jan 11th, 08, 10:35 am   #1
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Anyone have toe kick heaters

We had a heating guy here yesterday as we are trying to come up with a budget for our plan. We have hot water heat and he felt that I didn't leave enough wall space for a radiator, and recommended toe-kick heaters. Anyone have any experience with these?

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Re: Anyone have toe kick heaters

I don't, but I do have a forced air heat vent that exits through my toe-kick- I know it's not the same thing, but the toekicks love it. And so do my toes!! I go stand in front of it when it's on....

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Re: Anyone have toe kick heaters

My mom's house has forced air, toe-kick also and it's great.

Would there be extra moisture with the hot water heat that you would need to protect the surrounding cabinetry from? I can't imagine it being as bad as a dishwasher venting in the front by nearby cabinetry.

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I think that these would be electric and supplement the radiators?

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Re: Anyone have toe kick heaters

I have hot water radiators, and was told that we could add a radiator or electric baseboard heat in our kitchen. Electric baseboard could be run as toekick heaters. They would be a heat element (safe for cabinets) with a fan that blows the heat out from under the cabs and into the room. My neighbors have this in their Maine home and adore it. (They go up to Maine all year round, and even in the worst weather find it to be comfortable and effective.)

Depending on the size and configuration of your room, a small radiator might do the trick. We actually expanded our space and have NO heat source in the kitchen. We had none to begin with because the previous owners removed the radiator in favor of cabinets. We have found that having radiators in the two rooms adjoining the kitchen has been plenty for us. However, this is not an eat-in, hang out room. When we are in there, we are cooking, and the oven is most likely on. Also, the steam pipe for the upper floors runs under the half bath we added, so it is like having radiant heat in that section of new space.

Have you posted your plan? Maybe we could take a look and see where a radiator might fit. Do your local codes require a heat source in the room or rooms you are working on? Tell us what you have there now for heat, it could help figure out what to do.

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Re: Anyone have toe kick heaters

We just installed an ikea kitchen and have hydronic (hot water radiant) heaters elsewhere. The toe kick heater is a part of your hot water radiant loop and it has a fan assist to blow the air out from under the cabinet when the hot water loop gets up to a certain temperature. We bilt our own base/kicks and cut an access panel out of the bottom of the case that has the heater under it (in cse we need to service it. I was concerned beause it is right where I stand to do food prep but I LOVE it and so to my cats - they like to hang out there too. It's very qit. Ours was called the toester.
I've uploaded images of the toekick heater in the base before installing the cabinet and after. The panel was just cut out of the bottom. We added metal angles so we could just reuse the cut piece as the access panel.
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Re: Anyone have toe kick heaters

Thanks, everyone. Our kitchen is both eat in, and the main entrance to the house, so we definitely can't go without a heat source there (at least no in New England, anyway.) We currently have 2 radiators in there now, but one needs to be removed for cabinets, and the other is on a wall that we plan to knock down in a future remodel. The toe kick heaters sounding like a good idea, but I'm glad to hear that those of you with them like them. (I guess our yellow lab will too!)

Ours will be hydroponic with a fan. My other question is, are they noisy when the fan runs?

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Re: Anyone have toe kick heaters

It's a quiet fan - not noisy. You can here it if you walk ni the kitchen early morning. I don't find it distracting at all.

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