[yankeelawyer]

Does anyone happen to know the exact height of an Ikea base cab assembled using the 4 inch capita legs (not including the countertop)? The catalog says that the 4 inch capita legs are adjustable from 4 3/8 to 4 3/4 inches, but only yield a work height of 33.5 inches. Could that be correct?

The reason I am asking is that I am trying to figure out how thick my counters need to be in order to install a range like this pic :



The above are IKEA cabinets, and they managed to have a clean line across the bottom of the range and the adjacent cabinets. But the Viking specs indicate that the height of the range is 37 3/8, and my own measurements of the appliance in the store seemed to indicate that at a 36 inch final height (including counters), which I think is standard, the bottom of the range would extend into the toekick area.

Any ideas about how I can install my range as they have done in the photo? It looks to me like they may have fairly thick counters, but they don't look *that* thick.

Thanks

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[DesignDiva]

I don't think that is a range. That's Tyler Florence's kitchen, right? I bet it's a rangetop and separate wall oven installed below. That would yield this effect. You can't install toekick on Capita legs...not easily, anyway.

But to answer your question, my coffee bar is on Capita legs and the height (as far as I can tell since the countertop is on already) is 35 1/4" to the top of the cabinet frame from the floor.

[yankeelawyer]

Originally Posted by EvaPerconti

I don't think that is a range. That's Tyler Florence's kitchen, right? I bet it's a rangetop and separate wall oven installed below. That would yield this effect. You can't install toekick on Capita legs...not easily, anyway.

But to answer your question, my coffee bar is on Capita legs and the height (as far as I can tell since the countertop is on already) is 35 1/4" to the top of the cabinet frame from the floor.

It is Tyler's kitchen (we are on a first name basis since I have been staring at this pic way too long). : ) I am 99% sure that it is a range, because I bought the same one, and I have seen other Viking ranges installed this way (Viking even sells a toekick piece that you can customize). This was just the only pic I could find using IKEA cabs and a Viking, as opposed to other brands of cabs whose heights are unknown.

Are your Capita legs the 4 inch ones? As I mentioned, the IKEA catalog claims that a 4inch capita yields only a 33.5 inch work surface (it does say a 6 inch capita yields 35.5).

If using the 4 inch ones gives a height of 35.25 (excluding counter), I can make this work.

My alternative is to make the counter thicker but I want to avoid that because I am using marble and the only way to increase the thickness would be very $$$$.

Re the toekick -- I know the clip things are for the plastic legs and don't fit well on Capitas. We are planning to fabricate or modify the toekicks so they fit. That (hopefully) will be next week's headache : ).

Maybe I should call Tyler and ask? Think he'd mind?

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[yankeelawyer]

Here it is, not installed:

30" Sealed Burner, Dual Fuel Range - VDSC
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[DesignDiva]

Sure, give Tyler a call!

Yes, I have the 4" capita legs. I just got down and measured them to make absolutely sure. The cabinet boxes are 30" high exclusive of legs, so it makes perfect sense that what I see before my eyes is actually real...the top of the cabinet is at 35 1/4" since I cranked up the Capita legs quite a bit. I needed breathing room for my fridge.

Tigratrus had a nifty idea utilizing cut pieces of hose or pipe cover or something to go over the Capita leg to allow the toekick clip to attach to it.

[yankeelawyer]

Thanks!

I remember seeing something about wrapping Capitas... I will have to do a search.

[torrus]

The math is: cabinet 30.375", Capita leg 4.375" - 4.75" (recommended range) - so the max. height would be 35.125"...but why use Capita legs if covering them with toekick? (This may have been posted earlier, but I don't remember).
The countertop in the photo is 1.5" thick, but the range clearly is higher than that.
The Capita legs can be raised higher, but there is less and less thread holding the leg to the base.

[yankeelawyer]

Hi Torrus,

I figured out that the additional height I need has to come from the countertop, not the legs in order to get that clean line along the bottom.

I am a little confised by the Viking specs, which claim the height from the floor to the top of the "grate support" (apparently the steel lip at the sides) is 37 3/8 inches, which seems a bit high to me. That lip must be 3/8 inch above the counter for safety reasons, but I don't want it any higher or it looks like crud.

By my calculations, with the range set so that lip is 3/8 inch above the counter, the bottom of the range would be approx. 1 inch below the toekick line (i.e., effectively dropped into the toekick). I don't want to raise the cab legs, because that would just increase the difference b/ w the bottom of the cabs and the bottom of the range. So I thought one solution would be to make the counter thicker, which would allow me to raise the Viking's legs the amount needed (approx 1 inch), bringing the bottom of the range in line with the cabs.

My counters were supposed to be 3 cms, whih would not be enough. I do have some options to increase that if I need to, but as I said, they are expensive.

Thanks!!

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[yankeelawyer]

Re the capita legs -- I went with these because I had not made up my mind re whether to use toekick and was not thrilled with the IKEA toekicks that I could use with Rubrik stainless doors. So I went with these to keep my options open now and for the future, even though I recognize it may be a bit of a PITA to attach toekick to them (though I do have a very good carpenter and figured he could handle it).

This whole project has been about modifying stuff to make the Rubrik work throughout the kitchen, so the toekick issue didn't seem like the biggest deal. I may feel otherwise when we get to that point, though!

Meanwhile, I came home today to some gleaming new cab bodies that have been assembled. I have to say I am pretty impressed by them. They look nicer than the semi-custom cabs we pulled out of here (and those were only 5 years old).

[torrus]

There is a laminate that looks like stainless steel (I'll have to look for the brand) - I've seen it used for baseboard and/or toekick.