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Old Sep 24th, 05, 4:26 pm   #1
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Do you think a cabinet with glass doors over a stove would require constant cleaning from cooking steam/grease/etc.? There would be a hood under the cabinet and above the stove, but with our cooking habits (or rather, what I can remember of our cooking habits from the good old days when we had a kitchen), we're not likely to turn the fan on every time we cook -- just when we're cooking something smelly. What about a glass-door cabinet, then a regular cabinet underneath it, then the fan hood? Or an open shelf with cookbooks on it -- would the steam, etc. be bad for the books?

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I'm wondering if I'll turn my fancy hood on (once I get it and a stove, of course) since my last one was so noisy and useless. Did I mention ugly? Because it was ugly.

As for glass over the stove...hmmm, unless it was a true "plate" glass I wouldn't do it - and also, you'll be able to see your "guts" of your exhaust hood, wouldn't you? They aren't very visually pleasing.

I worry about the glass tiles on the chase that everyone has me so excited about...

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In my experience, that cabinet and the ones next to the range (uppers) get the worst of the greasy air, even with the fan on. If you don't mind constantly cleaning, go for it, but I guarantee you'll be constantly cleaning.

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Well, good thing I asked for some input first. I'm not a big fan of constant cleaning, so I guess I'll skip the glass cabinet there. I'd better buy my cabinets soon, before I come up with any more bright ideas that create more work for myself!

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I'm guessing that since you didn't mention anything about the ducting for your hood, maybe you've got a recirculating unit? I thought of you when I sawthis elevation rendering the other day. This is above ovens, but same idea. You'd have to be creative with the standard IKEA stuff, or cut some pieces out of plywood and paint to match, but this could look very upscale. Picture it lit with NON lighting....

If you're worried about cleaning, just put some plastic flowers up there--then you could just dunk them in a sink full of sudsy water and you'll be all"freshened up"!!! HA! Maybe not what you're looking for, but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway.

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Sorry to take so long to respond -- been very busy around here. Wow, Susan, that's a beautiful design in that drawing. Pardon me while I wipe up my puddle of drool...

I don't think I was very clear in my original explanation (this kitchen design stress is severely compromising my thinking processes). We have two options for the range hood.

1) A regular range hood, with either
A) A 24" cabinet to the ceiling (regular doors to hide ductwork)
B) A 15" cabinet with regular doors, with 9" of display space above it

2) An over-the-range combination microwave and hood, with either
A) A 24" cabinet to the ceiling with regular doors
B) A 24" cabinet to the ceiling with glass doors -- the microwave/hood connects directly to the ventwork to outside, so there's no additional ductwork to hide
C) A 15" cabinet with regular doors, with 9" of display space above it
D) A 15" cabinet with glass doors, with 9" space above it (might not put anything decorative above a glass cabinet, but the different height would be a nice way to break up the visual line of upper cabinets)


We're in limbo right now while we settle the microwave placement issue. I'm a little concerned about safety with the over-the-range microwave -- it's fine for adults, but potentially dangerous for future kids who could reach up to pull out something hot, spill it all over themselves, and get badly burned. (Obviously, I'd try to keep them from using the microwave, but if they take after my husband and me they'll be stubborn, independent, and part monkey). I'd prefer a microwave mounted under the cabinets, but we don't have any cabinets wide enough to do that, unless we change our design and either have the refrigerator blocking half the light switch (the old kitchen was like that -- looked awful) or have the pantry cabinet sticking out into the family room (not a fan of that idea). Or we can mount the microwave below the counter in the island, but that means losing some storage (and that's the only base cabinet we'll have more than 12" wide, other than a blind corner cabinet and the sink cabinet). Plus, obviously it'd be really easy for kids to open up the microwave and pull stuff out or put stuff in, and so far the only microwaves we've seen with "child safety locks" just have options to keep kids from starting the microwave with the keypad, not to keep them from physically opening the door in the first place.

In case you haven't noticed, I tend to overthink things. And to get overly wordy when expressing said thoughts. Aren't you glad I don't post more often?

Jen

p.s. I was at Ikea Woodbridge last night, and they had in the 2006 Kitchen Catalogs (finally!).





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p.s. I was at Ikea Woodbridge last night, and they had in the 2006 Kitchen Catalogs (finally!).


There will be a full report of the highlights, right? I have some purely selfish questions...

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Most microwaves have a safety lockout feature that will render it inoperable unless you input a particular sequence of buttons. By the time your kids are old enough to figure out where the manual is, read it and learn how to unlock the micro, they'll be old enough to be responsible in its use!

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Lisa, I don't recall anything earthshattering in the catalog (other than the new appliance section). It does seem a lot thicker than I remember the 2005 edition being, but since I gave away my copy of the 2005 catalog a while ago I can't say for sure what's different. I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you or anyone else has.

Evaperconti, I'm not so much concerned about "Let's see what happens when I put my sister's Barbie in the microwave and turn it on" as I am about a scenario where I'm cooking something in the microwave, I hear a loud crash, and while I'm upstairs making sure child #1 isn't bleeding, child # 2 opens the microwave and pulls down the hot dish on himself. I know sometimes kids get hurt and you can't avoid every potential hazard, but I think I'll worry a little less in the future if I consider all the permutations now, in the planning stages. (Plus, like I said, I tend to overthink things!)

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Jen, I think if you're talking very young kids, it probobly is a little easier to havethe microwaveout of reach. Once kids are lod enough to use the m/ w though, you'll want it someplace where they can safely get stuff out.

We've thought about an under the counter m/w, too--how exactly would you do it?

Does the kitchen catalog at least have the door styles and cabinet sizes that are missing from the planner and the main 2006 catalog?

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