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Old Jan 4th, 09, 11:09 pm   #1
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reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

Happy 09 Everyone! Thanks for reading my post and sharing your genius.

I've attached my kitchen plan, and would love help on the following:
1. Base cabinets measurements: Do these measurements include height of legs? For instance, base cabinets say 30 3/8'', but is total height higher once the legs are installed?

2. We're doing quartz countertop from another vendor, does this mean I don't need Ikea's worktops? I remember one contractor who came to give us a quote mentioned that if granite or quartz countertops were going to be installed, the base cabinets need enough plywood on top in order to hold the weight (like 5/8''). Is this something I need to address with Ikea, or through the vendor we're buying the countertops from?

3. The wall cabinets for the hood: We have a microhood (a microwave + integrated hood) ... did I pick the right cabinet for this? Our microhood is 36'' wide (47.4''h x 27''d), so I think I picked the right one (width wise). However, I wasn't sure if the "innards" of the cabinet I picked is the correct one for microhoods.

4. I would need two 3'' fillers on each side of the stove (since the microhood is 36'' and the stove is only 30''). Does this makes sense? I added them, with each being 3'' wide.

5. Some of the cabinets in the corners (like the pantry cabinet) have a yellow/black exclamation mark on the software. The picture shows a "space" in between the door and the wall when opening the door. I'm assuming this means I have to account for an inch or 2 of space?

6. I picked a high cabinet cover panel for the fridge. Does it make sense there (it's on the left side of the fridge)? Our current kitchen does not have one. We currently have a "freestanding" base cabinet next to our fridge, so stuff falls in between the two all the time. I'm assuming the cabinet cover panel will solve this issue.

7. The cabinet on the left side of the fridge (on the Ikea plan) is currently 18'' wide. Can't I replace them with 21'' instead? It looks like there might be room, so I don't have to use the 3'' filler (at least not on the right side). Seems like the base cabinet should be able to be as wide as 21'', but not sure about the wall cabinet right above it (the Ikea plan currently shows it as 18'' wide). I'm having problems trying to calculate all the gaps (on this wall), since the microhood and the stove aren’t the same width.

8. I have a gap in between my kitchen ceiling and the pantry & fridge cabinets. I assumed I needed a filler piece, but I can't figure out how to select the right one from the software. All the filler pieces seem to be for vertical gaps, not horizontal ones.

9. We cook alot and never have enough drawer space for our big cooking utensils (whips, tongs etc). I'd like our drawer to be on the right side of range to hold these larger utensils. Is there a drawer combo configuration that is a favorite of yours, and if so which drawers specifically? Do you advise 1 top drawer and then 1 cab door with pull out shelves?
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Old Jan 5th, 09, 1:54 am  
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Re: reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

It's the wrong time of day for extended comments, but here's a couple of images. I maybe should have squished the range a bit--it's obviously a bit tall.

1. 30 inches plus legs (which are adjustable) for a total of about 35"

2. My new granite (gneiss) countertops sit on the cabinets themselves. Check with your vendor.

3. I think you're right about the microwave/hood and cabinet, but as noted, it's the wrong time of day for clear thinking. A 36-inch microhood sounds sort of amazing. Designed to fit over a super-sized range?

4. The appearance of the stove area is nice and tidy.

5. I didn't see any warnings. The Planner does note any situation where things might bump.

The filler piece you've provided for the pantry cabinet may be helpful in ensuring that the pullout drawers won't get snagged by any possible irregularity in the wall.

6. Ikeafans commenting on plans expect tall Perfekt cover panels to separate fridges from adjoining base cabinets.

7. The 21" base cabinet doesn't seem to be sold in an all-drawer configuration (unlike the 18"). A 21" cabinet would indeed fit the space between the fridge and the range (I think that's a sideways response).

8. The decor strips are the only ceiling molding Ikea sells. You may be able to find something suitable for your cabinets (the planner says Abstrakt, which would be white).

9. All-drawer base cabinets seem the most popular among Ikeafans.
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You've got a Perfekt cover panel for the wall cabinet to the left side of the stove. You don't need that--a filler piece would do.

The wall cabinet is a bit narrower than the corner cabinet beneath it, so some kind of filler seems necessary.
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Re: reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

Thank you so much for the quick reply Dave of the Coonties. Your comments were very helpful. I had a few questions though:

1. You said "The wall cabinet is a bit shorter than the corner cabinet beneath it, so some kind of filler seems necessary.". I'm a bit confused about this comment. I'm assuming you're referring to the wall cabinet and the corner cabinet that are on the left side of the range. Are you saying I need a filler piece to go on top of the wall cabinet, thus making the wall cabinet appear to be longer? If so, won't I need to add filler pieces to all these wall cabinets to make them all look like the same height?

2. You said "A 36-inch microhood sounds sort of amazing. Designed to fit over a super-sized range?". Yes, I think this is what it was originally designed for, although we simply wanted it to be over a "normal" 30-inch gas range. More info can be found here about the Kenmore microhood.

3. Attached is an image of the exclamation mark warning. I think you mentioned this is just a warning of any situation where things might bump. Is this the warning you were referring to?



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Re: reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

one more thing--- please everyone, feel free to weigh in about our plan. We're keeping the budget down by keeping all the appliances and sink/plumbing in their same location, but we're flex in moving anything else around for efficiency. Open to all your suggestions. Thank you!

FYI --We're doing nexus bb at base, and abstrakt as wall cabs, white quartz countertops, SS appliances. Thanks!

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Re: reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

I corrected a mistake. Wall cabinets can be a bit narrower than base cabinets, or at least that seems to be the case with the cabinets in question. I should've checked the kitchen catalog (paper version) to see whether it agrees with the measurements provided in the Planner.

That exclamation mark warning is a typical one. There's also warnings when an island, or the other side of a galley kitchen, is too close.

Someone will wonder about the doors for base cabinets opposite the fridge. Most seem to think "all drawers all the time" for the bases.

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Re: reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

It's warning you that you need to leave room for the handles or they'll bump the walls. Drawers will let you get closer, besides being totally cool and ergonomic. Get big drawers and you'll never go back!

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Re: reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

Have a look at my drawings.

It might help with the area around and above the range.

Good luck

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Re: reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

This is my exact stove frig. configuration! - except I have a pass through galley kitchen. My sink is across from the frig. and slightly right.

1) Since there is some overlap between the sink and frig. across from one another, should I flip the pantry and frig. (or would that look weird?)

2) I have a normal 30" above the stove microwave, what height cabinet do you use with 8' ceilings for proper clearance above the stove. And will the exposed white/birch be odd, or do you add cover panels?

3) I am going to recess the frig. 3" into the wall so it is flush with the base cabinets. Has anyone done this? Will I have problems opening the doors (standard 36" side-by side ss with hinges on the top).

4) Since my frig. is an older model and has the hinges on top, what size upper cabinet do you use to avoid awkward gaps above the frig.

5) Can someone clarify why the frig. and pantry gap at the top near the ceiling? I thought that they were 8' tall? I am running my wall cabinets to the ceiling. If there is a gap, wouldn't horizontal filler ruin the line of the wall cabinets?

We are using nexus yb with white counters and gray "slate" tile.

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Re: reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

Thanks for the drawing Zenoforum. I had a few questions though (I also added my questions into your original drawing):

1. Why did you add so many side panels in your drawing (all around the range area)? Was this more for design appearance or function? It seems like each side panel would at least take up 1 inch of space, so I'm afraid I would be losing overall storage space by adding more side panels. However, your design does make the range area look more symetrical and visually appealing.

2. The corner cabinet you chose looks like the 49'' blind corner cabinet. Is this correct? If so, doesn't it have a drawer on top? When we looked at the 49'' blind corner cabinet in Ikea, we did not like the top drawer, because we felt it reduce the overall storage space. In other words, the top shelf of the lazy susan could barely fit anything with height (like pots or pans).

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Re: reviews of kitchen plan--nexus with abstrakt

Hello.

Take out the cover panels arouns the stove and Microwave (4 of them), they're around 1/2" each, and they are there only if your range/stove and MW don't cover the sides of the cabinets.

I'm familiar with Faktum system from IKEA, and I see you have this as 49" corner cabinet:

http://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/37328_XXXXXXXX_S4.gif

But could some one please tell if it's not possible to have this in the Akurum :

http://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/0088609_PE220009_S4.JPG

Isn't it a 24" wide regular door?

The diference is just the Hinges?

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