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Old Jun 7th, 07, 12:14 pm   #1
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Please critique - where to put microwave and maybe dishwasher

Hi All,

I've got a plan for my kitchen and would like some feedback from you folks.

I'm trying to maximize storage space but keep functionality. In terms of style, we are trying to make a modern but cozy and warm kitchen.

In the design I've used a corner cabinet as a sink cabinet so no sink is shown. The sink is under the set of wall cabinets that are 30 inches - the other cabinets are 39 inches. I know that I won't be able to easily access the corner but that's the only way I can get a 1.5 tub sink into the space.

Some other difficulties are where to put the microwave and perhaps a dishwasher if possible. I've thought about putting a dishwasher under the window, but there is a heating vent thiere which would then be blocked

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Please critique - where to put microwave and maybe dishwasher

Hi and welcome!

I don't think a dishwasher will work if you have your sink in the corner there...you need at least 12" between the sink and dishwasher when they are perpendicular, otherwise the open dishwasher door is right where you need to stand at the sink.

Is there any way to put the sink under the window? If you put a 49" blind corner with the sink on the end under the window, you would have enough room to put the DW on the other end of the L.

I'd also recommend moving the range down slightly and using a 30 and a 15 drawer on either side, I think it will be more functional than two 12" cabs. The 12s are really tight.

I've attached a plan with those changes made. I also used an OTR microwave and glass on either side of the range. Normally I don't like glass around the range but in this case I think it's nice to bring a little airiness.

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Re: Please critique - where to put microwave and maybe dishwasher

Are the plumbing connections already in that corner by the window? If it is possible to move them, I would look at designing a little scullery with a sink, dishwasher, and 24" cab in the little nook where you currently have the fridge, then some 12.5" depth cabs on the opposite nook wall for dish storage. Then I'd use the area where you are proposing the sink for pantries and the refridgerator.

If you don't want to move the plumbing, I'd at least consider having an island cart between the fridge and the stove--your plan shows that they're about 9' apart.

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Re: Please critique - where to put microwave and maybe dishwasher

Eva, thanks for the tips. I've made some changes to your suggestions. The DW is next to the sink in the same row - I've taken out the L. I lose some cabinets, but I think here, less is more. It makes the plumbing easier as well since the sink is where the plumbing naturally would be. I'll still have to run some electrical however, but I think we can manage that one.

My wife doesn't like the idea of losing some cabinets so I was wondering if people think that there are enough cabinets?

As for the microwave I think I'll put it on one of the shelves in the pantry and customize the doors to fit this - as per one of the articles in this forum. Hopefully my microwave will have enough ventilation

WrenX, thanks for suggesting the scullery and yes there is plumbing where the pantry is, but we would prefer to the have the sink where it is now. Also, with the newer plan the fridge is much closer to the stove.

I plan on actually have a small table in front of the fridge - closer to the door so that the fridge can open - to double as a telephone table as well as a small breakfast nook. I don't feel like going to the dining room to eat breakfast. This table also will allow my toddler a place to eat while I prepare dinner. It'll be tight, but I have my hopes - finding the right table will be difficult.

Another question is how to fill that 5 inch gap where my fridge and pantry are...suggestions welcome. I was think of making a 5 inch door and using that space as a broom closet. I can go exotic and have a small pull out with shelves for dried goods.

Thanks for all your help guys.
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