[tlzt]

We want only under counter storage in our kitchen, no hanging shelves, since there is an island (no upper shelves possible) and the opposing side is one long wall with windows all across it. We had planned to do mostly drawers for storage of plates, pots/pans etc. We also wanted to do big drawers, maybe 2, of the super big 30" or 36" width for a pantry for dry food storage (cereal, crackers, pasta etc.)

When I went to take one last look, I noticed that all of the drawers are the same depth, no matter how wide they are. I couldn't find any drawers that would be suitable for cereal boxes, for example, for the food pantry. Did I just totally miss something?

Is there any way to store dry food (esp cereal since it's a rather unusual and tall shape) in under counter drawers or would we have to do shelves instead? My last choice would be the tall cabinet pantry because that will spoil the clean line across the wall with windows.

Suggestions? Where do you store your food and cereal????

[zeuss]

The drawers do have a limited height. The deep drawer is 12.5", the next is 11.25" and the shallow drawers are 6.25". But if you want storage of tall items, you can use drawers as pull-outs behind a door. The pullouts work extremely well because they still use the high end drawer glide system from Blum.

You just order a drawer from replacement part from Ikea to substitute for the wooden front of a regular drawer.

88" Pantry Configuration Diagrams

Ikea uses the Blum Tandembox Blumotion technology which is an option only on the highest end cabinets. I just went to a high end showroom last week and looked at an $80,000 set of cabinets. But when I opened the drawer, there was exactly the same Blum system Ikea uses at less than 1/10 the price.

To find out more about the drawer glides, look here:
TANDEMBOX - Drawers, high fronted pull-outs for all applications

To find out how to best use lower storage effectively, look here:
www.dynamicspace.com

[Narf]

Two choices - either as Ikea's pullout base cabinet where a door is mounted on a deep drawer itself (and there are additional pullout drawers inside where you can place as desired), or with the doors on 153 degree hinges which open conventionally to reveal pullout drawers inside.

That said, I would go with the pullout base cabinet method for the following reasons:
- It's not so hard to reach around a door, unlike the pullout pantry which can be awkward.
- The bottom of the cabinet is readily usable; with the hinges, one cannot have a pullout at the very bottom because the hinge becomes an obstruction.
- Hinges would be a slight additional cost.

As everything is component based, you can still have a conventional 6-1/4" drawer up high with a 24" tall door as a pullout below.

[Turnip]

If I understand this correctly, you are saying instead of using the traditional drawer, put a door on the front and then use the grey Rationell pull out drawers inside.

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but I wonder if this would work with my kitchen under the sink.

WE have a 36"wide base for the Double Domsjo sink, which has 2 doors right below the apron front. We ended up doing a 15" base pull out next to it for trash, so I have been tihnking about how to maximize storage under the sink.

At first It hought we shoudl ditch the doors and put in a drawer, but maybe we can adapt this idea and put in a pull out drawer behind the doors? Do they make 36" wide pull outs? I'm not sure how we'll get around the water pipes though.

[zeuss]

There are whole threads dedicated to this issue of sink pullouts. Check out the modification forum. Lots of pictures and examples too.

[NBeth]

Originally Posted by Turnip

Isnip
WE have a 36"wide base for the Double Domsjo sink, which has 2 doors right below the apron front. We ended up doing a 15" base pull out next to it for trash, so I have been tihnking about how to maximize storage under the sink.

At first It hought we shoudl ditch the doors and put in a drawer, but maybe we can adapt this idea and put in a pull out drawer behind the doors? Do they make 36" wide pull outs? I'm not sure how we'll get around the water pipes though.

Keep the doors. Attach to each whichever drawer best fits around the plumbing as a pullout (on one side that might be a 15" wide, on another side it might be 18" but only half depth). You'll use one or more drawer partitions (normally hung from the top rail) to create "sides" in the middle of the cabinet. No one can see from the outside to know what kind of wacky arrangements you had to make! If you could figure out how to stabilize it, you could even install a taller partition (from an as-is cab?) and do layers of drawers.... Stability might be provided by a shelf over the first layer....? With Ikea, many things are possible!

[zeuss]

I wonder if we could adapt the Blum Sink pullout:


Reclaimed space for you:

How do you best use the space under the sink and integrate this into your kitchen design?

Using pull-outs under the sink, you can make better and more intelligent use of valuable kitchen storage space. Everything required for dish washing can be easily stored in the new pull-out under the sink and will always be within easy reach. Using the ORGA-LINE inner dividing system, pull-out organisation can be optimised. The bottom pull-out is perfectly suited for optimal recycling separation.
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[DulcineaK]

warning to the budget conscious... the ONLY place Blum is reasonably priced (imo) is the stuff sold through ikea, blum products bought from blum or other licensed resellers can be extremely expensive, i forget how much that sink drawer is (and really, can only be used in limited variations of sinks), but i remember my eyes popping out over it.