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Old Jun 28th, 07, 11:59 am   #1
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Question Long Distance Ordering with Modifications

Hello,

I won't be ready for my kitchen cabinets for another 6 weeks or so, but because prices are going up on Sunday by as much as 20% on a lot of items, I decided to try to get the whole order in now.

I spoke to someone at Ikea Direct this morning and he told me that they could probably delay the order by 5 weeks which is great for me. The problem is, I was taking my time with all my modifications (since I wasn't ready to place the order yet) and now I am afraid I will find myself rushing through the ordering process, and making lots of mistakes.

From your experience what is the best way to deal with these modifications when ordering remotely? I got the Ikean's email address and I sent him my complete kitchen list including a description of the mods that I am planning to do. He said he would call me back later today to discuss my order, but I am afraid that he may not understand everything I am trying to do.

Would it help to post my order here? I am a little overwhelmed right now...

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Question Re: Long Distance Ordering with Modifications

Here's my order so far in case anyone has time to review it. I am really only concerned about the items with Modifications (items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 21--highlighted in BOLD below), hopefully the Ikean will get the standard items right.

AKURUM RATIONELL (to avoid messing up the table with popup descriptions)
Code:
#  ITEM  QTY ARTICLE #       DESCRIPTION                       QTY   PRICE
      
KITCHEN

1  BD36    2                                                    
             34382319        AKURUM BAS CAB FRM 36" WHT NA       1  $39.00
             30076319        AKURUM NN LEG BLK 4PK NA            1   $6.00
             60093398        LINJÄR DRWFRNT18"HIGLOS BLU/ALUM    1  $39.00
             60093379        LINJÄR DR 18X24" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM    1 $105.00
             80062150        AKURUM RAIL F PARTITN 36" GRY NA    1   $3.00
             00048926        AKURUM N PART DRW 30 36" WHT NA     1  $12.00
             10107067        RATIONELL N FUL EXT DRW 18"SLV NA   1  $21.00

   Using Lee Valley blind corner hardware,
   cabinet will have 18" door and drawer.


2  B36     1                                                    
             34382319        AKURUM BAS CAB FRM 36" WHT NA       1  $39.00
             30076319        AKURUM NN LEG BLK 4PK NA            1   $6.00
             90093392        LINJÄR DR/CRNWC17X30HIGL BLU/ALUMNA 1 $148.00
             00048926        AKURUM N PART DRW 30 36" WHT NA     1  $12.00

   Using Lee Valley blind corner hardware,
   cabinet will have 17" door only.


3  BD24    1                                                    

             74382110        AKURUM BAS CAB FRM 24" WHT NA       1  $30.00
             30076319        AKURUM NN LEG BLK 4PK NA            1   $6.00
                             LINJÄR DRWFRNT24"HIGLOS BLU/ALUM    1        
                             RATIONELL N FUL EXT DRW 24"SLV NA   1        
                             OVEN BRACKET?                       1        

   I will be using this as an oven cabinet,
   the drawer will be at the bottom instead
   of the normal BD24 top drawers.  Not sure
   if I can get oven brackets separately.          

4  SDB30   1                                                    
             54382210        AKURUM BAS CAB FRM 30" WHT NA       1  $35.00
             30076319        AKURUM NN LEG BLK 4PK NA            1   $6.00
             90093373        LINJÄR DR 15X24" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 2  $99.00
                             LINJÄR DRWFRNT30"HIGLOS BLU/ALUM    1        
             40107080        RATIONELL N DP FUL EXT DRW 15"SLVNA 2  $22.00
             40108923        RATIONELL N DEEP DRWFRNT 15" SLV NA 2  $10.00
             00048926        AKURUM N PART DRW 30 36" WHT NA     1  $12.00

   Instead of the 2 15" drawerfronts, I want
   a single 30" drawerfront.  Instead of doors,
   I want pull-out "drawers".

5  WRD3624 1                                                    
             04384810        AKURUM WALL TOP CBFRM 36X24WHT NA   1  $45.00
             00093377        LINJÄR DR 18X15" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 2  $70.00
             20107081        RATIONELL N DP FUL EXT DRW 18"SLVNA 2  $22.00
             40108923        RATIONELL N DEEP DRWFRNT 15" SLV NA 2  $10.00
             60093398        LINJÄR DRWFRNT18"HIGLOS BLU/ALUM    2  $39.00
             00048926        AKURUM N PART DRW 30 36" WHT NA     1  $12.00
             10107067        RATIONELL N FUL EXT DRW 18"SLV NA   2  $21.00

   I will be cutting the height of this cabinet
   from 24" down to 21", and will use the 15"
   doors + a 6" drawer on each side.  Doors
   will open as pull-outs.

6  BPO12   1                                                    
             54381710        AKURUM BAS CAB FRM 12" WHT NA       1  $23.00
             30076319        AKURUM NN LEG BLK 4PK NA            1   $6.00
             70093369        LINJÄR DR 12X30" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 1  $93.00
             50107065        RATIONELL N FULL EXT DRW 12" SLV NA 1  $65.00
             60108677                                        1    

   No Modifications                                                       

7  B4D15   1                                                    
             34381810        AKURUM BAS CAB FRM 15" WHT NA       1  $24.00
             30076319        AKURUM NN LEG BLK 4PK NA            1   $6.00
             30107066        RATIONELL N FUL EXT DRW 15" SLV NA  3  $19.00
             40107080        RATIONELL N DP FUL EXT DRW 15"SLVNA 1  $22.00
             80093401        LINJÄR DRWFR S4 15HIGLOS BLU/ALUMNA 1 $145.00

   No Modifications                                                           
                                                                
8  DOOR    1                                                    
             60115932        LINJÄR DR 24X30" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 1        
                                                                
   24X30" LINJÄR BLUE DOOR to be used as a dishwasher panel      
  
9  CW2530  1                                                    
             74361810        AKURUM N WALL CRN CAB 25X30" WHT NA 1  $41.00
             64360910        RATIONELL N SHFCR WALL CAB MELWH NA 2   $8.00
             90093392        LINJÄR DR/CRNWC17X30HIGL BLU/ALUMNA 1 $148.00
                             hinges?                              

   No Modifications                                                       
                                                                
10 W1830   1                                                    
             94383910        AKURUM WALL CAB FRM 18X30" WHT NA   1  $17.00
             04261300        INTEGRAL N HINGE 130° 2PK           1   $5.00
             24579010        RATIONELL SHLF 18X12" MEL WH 2PK NA 1   $6.00
             20093381        LINJÄR DR 18X30" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 1 $129.00

   No Modifications                                                       
                                                                
11 WHZ3015 1                                                    
             14383810        AKURUM WALL CAB FRM 15X30" WHT NA   1        
             04261300        INTEGRAL N HINGE 130° 2PK           1   $5.00
                             LINJÄR DR 30X15" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 1        
   No Modifications                                                       
                                                                
12 WG3039  3 04261300        INTEGRAL N HINGE 130° 2PK           2   $5.00
             04382910        AKURUM WALL CAB FRM 30X39" WHT NA   1        
             04429700        AVSIKT GLS DR15X39"FRST GLS/ALUM NA 2        
             44579900        RATIONELL SHLF 30X12" GLS 2PK NA    2        

   No Modifications                                                       
                                                                
13 HPO1588 1                                                    
             24381410        AKURUM HI CAB FRM 15X88" WHT NA     1  $71.00
             30076319        AKURUM NN LEG BLK 4PK NA            1   $6.00
             04261300        INTEGRAL N HINGE 130° 2PK           1   $5.00
             34578010        RATIONELL SHLF 15X24" MEL WH 2PK NA 1   $8.00
             30107066        RATIONELL N FUL EXT DRW 15" SLV NA  3  $19.00
             40107080        RATIONELL N DP FUL EXT DRW 15"SLVNA 2  $22.00
             40108923        RATIONELL N DEEP DRWFRNT 15" SLV NA 1  $10.00
             90054423        RATIONELL DRWFRNT 15" SLV NA        3   $5.00
             90093373        LINJÄR DR 15X24" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 1  $99.00
             20093376        LINJÄR DR 15X64" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 1 $219.00
            
   No Modifications                                                       
                                                                
14 HD1588  1                                                    
             24381410        AKURUM HI CAB FRM 15X88" WHT NA     1  $71.00
             30076319        AKURUM NN LEG BLK 4PK NA            1   $6.00
             04261300        INTEGRAL N HINGE 130° 2PK           1   $5.00
             84261400        INTEGRAL N HINGE 130° 3PK           1   $7.00
             34578010        RATIONELL SHLF 15X24" MEL WH 2PK NA 3   $8.00
             90093373        LINJÄR DR 15X24" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 1  $99.00
             20093376        LINJÄR DR 15X64" HIGLOS BLU/ALUM NA 1 $219.00
            
   No Modifications                                                       
                                                                
15 COVER PANELS                                                          
             00094391        PERF LINJÄR CVRPNL/BAS30HIGLOSBLUNA 1  $41.00
             60094393        PERF LINJÄR CVRPNL/HICB88GLOS BLUNA 2 $129.00
             10094395        PERF LINJÄR CVRPNL/WLCB33GLOS BLUNA 2  $37.00

16 DECO STRIP                                                      
             50094384        PERF LINJÄR RND DECOSTRP 87"GLOSBLU 2  $37.00

17 TOE KICK                                                        
             90038503        AKURUM PLINTH 88" ALUM NA           4  $15.00
                                                                
18 SUSPENSION RAIL                                               ?        

BATHROOM

For these items, I know NEXUS BROWN-BLACK is back-ordered.  
I would be happy getting everything except the door fronts
and being on a waitlist for when they become available,
or maybe buying the cheapest doors until then.

20 BPO12   2                                                    
                             NEXUS BROWN-BLACK BIRCH FRAMES               
                                                                
21 B24     1                                                    
                             NEXUS BROWN-BLACK BIRCH FRAMES               
          
   I want to do drawers instead of doors, just like in the
   SD24 above (this is for a bathroom sink), but with a
   whole 12x30" door.
  
22 COVER PANELS                                                          
                             NEXUS BROWN-BLACK CVRPNL/BAS30      2

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Re: Long Distance Ordering with Modifications

First, how'd you do that table in the "code" box? That's cool.

I'm not sure it will help but I'll look and ask questions. But just because I don't understand it doesn't mean it's not correct, and I didn't check any article numbers.

2) Is the drawer partition needed to install the LV unit? I didn't know that.

3) may want to specify height of drawerfront and drawerbox, shallow or deep? Doesn't the oven need a shelf to sit on?

4) May want to specify "shallow" 30" drawerfront. That 30" will be a false front, right? Do you need the hardware to attach the false front? Don't know if that is sold separately. Why do you need the Rationell deep interior drawerfronts? I thought the drawers would be attached to the 15x24 Linjar doors.

5) Again, why do you need the Rationell deep interior drawerfronts? And in this case, why 15"? I think you'll need 2 drawer partitions, one for the top drawers and one for the bottom pullouts.

6) what's the extra article number for?

9) I belive the hinges for the wall corner cabinet come with the door.

11) is that a "horizontal" cabinet that opens upwards? If so, you don't want the 130 degree hinges.

12) do the Avsikt glass doors use the same kind of hinges as the regular doors?

13) This is a pullout so the 64"H door will be attached to 2 deep drawers and the 24" door will be on hinges? So why do you need the Rationell deep interior drawerfronts? ( I must be missing something here)

18) Suspension rail is 79 3/8" long and the 2007 Kitchens catalog says $6 ea. You should be able to figure how many you need.

The bathroom cabinet parts are not listed as specifically as the others. You may want to list out the parts for your own information and so you can check the order after they write it up. If you decide to get a cheap door while waiting for the NBB, may I suggest the Arlig Medium Brown?

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Re: Long Distance Ordering with Modifications

Thanks so much for taking the time to look at my order!
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First, how'd you do that table in the "code" box? That's cool.
There's a button in the post toolbar that looks like a "#" and anything you put in between the CODE /CODE tags is put in a table like format. Very useful for stuff like this!
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I'm not sure it will help but I'll look and ask questions. But just because I don't understand it doesn't mean it's not correct, and I didn't check any article numbers.

2) Is the drawer partition needed to install the LV unit? I didn't know that.
Honestly I am not sure, but I thought I needed something for the other side of the door to rest on when closed.
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3) may want to specify height of drawerfront and drawerbox, shallow or deep? Doesn't the oven need a shelf to sit on?
Yes, I guess I meant "shelf" when I said "oven bracket". What I really meant are the two metal things on top of the drawer in this photo:

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It seems no one knows anything about the IKEA 24" oven or the cabinet to put this oven yet. I am sure these shelves are offered for the 30" cabinets today, my question is whether I can get those separately to use them on a 24" cabinet.
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4) May want to specify "shallow" 30" drawerfront. That 30" will be a false front, right? Do you need the hardware to attach the false front?
I am planning to install a tip-out tray for this drawerfront so I won't need any IKEA hardware (I think).
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Don't know if that is sold separately. Why do you need the Rationell deep interior drawerfronts? I thought the drawers would be attached to the 15x24 Linjar doors.
Good question. I was going by this post by torrus, apparently there is mouting hardware that comes with this item that I will need to make this work.
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5) Again, why do you need the Rationell deep interior drawerfronts? And in this case, why 15"? I think you'll need 2 drawer partitions, one for the top drawers and one for the bottom pullouts.
Same as above. I would have thought I would get the 18" drawerfronts as well!
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6) what's the extra article number for?
Honestly, I have no idea. I basically went to see the item on IKEA.com, chose Linjar Blue and 12", and then clicked on package measurements at the bottom. That gave me the article numbers and quantities for all the pieces, but it's very likely that the website is wrong!
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9) I belive the hinges for the wall corner cabinet come with the door.
Thank you, I will note that.
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11) is that a "horizontal" cabinet that opens upwards? If so, you don't want the 130 degree hinges.
Thanks, that's what I thought too, but that's another one of those funny things listed on Ikea.com!
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12) do the Avsikt glass doors use the same kind of hinges as the regular doors?
I know they don't (I already ordered one door), but it's probably another Ikea.com mistake!
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13) This is a pullout so the 64"H door will be attached to 2 deep drawers and the 24" door will be on hinges? So why do you need the Rationell deep interior drawerfronts? ( I must be missing something here)
I am not sure, maybe for the hardware also?
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18) Suspension rail is 79 3/8" long and the 2007 Kitchens catalog says $6 ea. You should be able to figure how many you need.
Thanks, I didn't have this information until now. I guess I need 3 of them then.
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The bathroom cabinet parts are not listed as specifically as the others. You may want to list out the parts for your own information and so you can check the order after they write it up.
I agree, I just didn't have the time to do it yet, I spent so much time on the kitchen, and was hoping to spend a few more weeks planning it, and now I have to do it all in two days!
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If you decide to get a cheap door while waiting for the NBB, may I suggest the Arlig Medium Brown?
Great suggestion, I was going to go with Arlig White, but Arlig beech effect (I think that's what you meant) is just a couple of dollars more and closer to the look I am going for.
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HTH
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I am soooo thankful for your help. Thank you so much. Like you can see, I don't really know what I am doing all that well yet, so I really appreciate the help.

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Re: Long Distance Ordering with Modifications

I'll go over the other items in a minute but Arlig Medium Brown is a new doorstyle that was just introduced earlier this year. Cheaper laminate finish obviously, but way closer to the dark color you are looking for than the white or beech colors.
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I'll go over the other items in a minute but Arlig Medium Brown is a new doorstyle that was just introduced earlier this year. Cheaper laminate finish obviously, but way closer to the dark color you are looking for than the white or beech colors.
Great! I think my biggest problem is that being so far away from the nearest IKEA I do all my shopping on their website, and, well, their website kinda sucks sometimes! There is no mention of Arlig Medium Brown anywhere, so if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't even know it existed! Thank you so much.
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Re: Long Distance Ordering with Modifications

And being 5 hours from an IKEA myself, I learn everything here on IKEAFANS.com!

I read the sink modification thread and according to pollyq all you need from the interior drawerfront pkg is the template and the plugs for the hinge holes. Who says you can't put pull-outs under a sink?!
Since you have so many, the frugal part of me says you don't need more than one template and there's probably a pdf here somewhere to use. And I know I've read here about people making their own plugs. I think Dulci said she had a bunch she could mail to someone.
pull-out base question... is a thread about the screws used for the pull-out. To tell the truth, I can't follow or figure out which screws are supposed to be used or which package they come in.
Maybe it's safer to just order the interior drawerfronts anyway. When you get to the point of putting these together, maybe you can post about what is really needed.

Thanks for the table info. I'll have to try that. I love spreadsheets.

I wonder if it might be better, for the cabinets with no modifications, to just go by the cabinet codes and let the Ikean enter whatever is standard. I don't trust the website.

You do so know what you are doing! I can't wait to see your kitchen come together.

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Re: Long Distance Ordering with Modifications

For the template, there is a link from jenb to a .jpg in this thread: missing template? for 12" pantry base.... It measures from the edge of the door and the same template is used for the 12" and the 15" pullout.

When someone buys a regular deep drawer to go on a regular drawerfront, they don't need to buy the interior drawerfront just to get the screws. I'm convinced pollyq is right and you just need the template and the hinge hole plugs.

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For the template, there is a link from jenb to a .jpg in this thread: missing template? for 12" pantry base.... It measures from the edge of the door and the same template is used for the 12" and the 15" pullout.

When someone buys a regular deep drawer to go on a regular drawerfront, they don't need to buy the interoior drawerfront just to get the screws. I'm convinced pollyq is right and you just need the template and the hinge hole plugs.

HTH
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You are just AWESOME. You are responding faster and with more info than I can even keep up with! I think you're right, I won't order the extra drawer fronts, since I already have several that I actually need to the template will be included in them. Buying a drawer front for a few screws doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Re: Long Distance Ordering with Modifications

Update on the ordering process. I had initially talked to one Ikean yesterday and emailed my order to him yesterday morning. Apparently he is really busy today so he passed the order to another Ikean and she callled me to let me know that she will be working on my order.

I just hope we can get everything done by tomorrow...
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