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Old May 5th, 07, 9:18 pm  
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Re: expert mod help needed!

very cool... i was wondering why they were discontinuing such a fab idea.... does it look like the Nian?
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Re: expert mod help needed!

it looks pretty much identical...

the light is just white so i wonder if they fixed that (if i remember right someone said the nian had a greenish cast???)
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Old May 5th, 07, 9:23 pm  
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it was eva... and the cast is just that "old school" fluorescent that is evocative of your grandma's old kitchen (or at least that's how my mom explained it )
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hm, it's probaby the same light. i had a fluorescent light in my kitchen up until about a month ago, so maybe that's why it doesn't seem unappealing to me?
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Re: expert mod help needed!

i just don't mind fluorescent lights. i had the 1980's built in box in my kitchen which i was happy to remove and update with recessed lights, but i stayed fluorescent... the thing that bugs me about the long tubes (especially older fixtures) is the flicker...
but in california we have title 24 (which i am thrilled about) so one has to fall in love with fluorescent regardless

can't wait to see the shelf, wonder if my ikea will have it monday when i go to help my sister buy her kitchen...
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Re: expert mod help needed!

Having just installed these as shelves in the bedroom and planned for the bathroom remodel ...

- Nian is the old name, with sizes noted as 17", 22", and 28". Rationell is the new name, to follow with the other kitchen accessories, complete with a new stock number. The sizes are now nominal (ie. 30" instead of 28"), making it easier to folks to figure out what goes to what.
- The frosted glass contributes a good bit of the "yellow" light that had been brought up previously. I removed the bottom glass (remove the 2 screws on the non-switch side and slide the glass out), and it works a lot better.
- The underlying frame is extruded aluminum, but I sure wouldn't try mounting a door onto it, since it's designed for static perpendicular force, not the rotational force that occurs with the using of a hinge. Best bet is to just cut a big hole through the "roof" of the lower cabinet ... and ditch the bottom glass.

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Re: expert mod help needed!

dulci, there is a big stack of 22" wide nian light shelves at the e palo alto store. i was there monday and picked up 3 of them i'm going to use for a long lighted shelf above my fridge/pantry area. at 24.99 each it's a great deal! i don't mind the color of the light either...fluorescent and LED's will be what we're all using eventually!

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i just put the rationell shelf together last night...it does not come with a power cord. it comes with a cord, that needs to be plugged into another cord (sold separately for $5.00 to be plugged into the wall. there is also a cord you can but that let's you plug six shelves into one base so they can all be operated with one on-off switch.

i decided to just use one as the bottom of my horizontal cabinet stack as a replacement for undercabinet lighting.
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thanks devon, we have a ton of the 22s in emeryville as well, i was wanting more 28s
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Re: expert mod help needed!

No cord? They got cheap ... the Nian lights included the switch/cord.

Dulci - I'll see if there are any 28's left @ Covina ... how many do you need?

Personally, I have 2 extras ... so at the very least, I can spare one of 'em at cost ($23.99 + tax + shipping + paypal fees) to you.
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