[congener47]

Hi,
I'm hoping I can get some more great assistance from Ikeafans. I took my design to Ikea Hicksville last night, only to be told that my planned mods won't work and would invalidate the warranty on the modified cabinets. But the Ikean also didn't appear to recognize "Lee Valley" so I'm skeptical. For the most part, I just asked Mr. Ikean (Chris) to put the items in my draft order as requested, and said that I would review it later.

So my specific questions in reviewing the draft order are, do I have the right Ikea parts for:
1. the 36-inch base cabinet mod for right hand Lee Valley unit?
2. the "pollyq" trash/recycling pull-out mod for under the sink?
3. the Ikean told me that the 30" oven drawer is 6-1/2 inches high and would not fit in the 30 inch drawer base cabinet (B4D30 has top drawers 6-1/4 inch high). He also said there was no way to purchase only the components that I wanted, and I would still have to purchase the two 15-inch top drawers and extra glides and partition that come with the B4D30 even if I wanted the single 30-inch wide drawer. Is this true? I'm getting Abstrakt style doors/drawers, if that makes a difference.
4. the Ikean told me I would not have enough room for the handles in the corner. Will I need clearance for handles only, say a couple of inches, or more than that?
5. does anything else look wrong?

I am attaching my plan and my draft order. I also scanned a blank copy of the Ikea Hicksville order form, in case anyone can use it.

Thanks!

[DulcineaK]

without looking at all the attachments i can speak to a number of your concerns...

before anything, the only time warranties are invalidated is if you physically cut the box. rearranging drawers and doors doesn't do it. i've cut into plenty of boxes figuring the warranty is difficult to deal with anyway and the boxes are inexpensive.

1--yes
2-- i'd have to open your attachment and sift to say if you've got the right parts, but you'll need: a partition, 2 deep drawers (both provided you're not doing a 24", cause then you'd need only a drawer and no partition), 2 Deep drawer fronts (hardware is taken from these packs)
3--the oven drawer works. a lot of us have them in our kitchens so i'm shocked that mine apparently doesn't fit . you don't have to order the partition or the extra drawer boxes/glides. you will end up with 2 small drawer fronts as the 30" drawer fronts are sold ONLY in a set. (if you get too many parts you can always return the unopened things)
4--you need handle clearance, and maybe a smidge more to be safe. what handles are you using?
5someone else can speak to that....

sorry you got a limited ikean.... tell him to start thinking outside of the catalog, the world is bigger out there!

[jenb]

I can't speak to anything other than #3, but yes it will work. I looked at your draft order and couldn't tell what size your sink cabinet is. If it is a 30", you can not order the two drawer fronts for top "false drawer" portion and use the two 15" fronts from your 30" base there instead. That's what I did and it saved a little money and prevented having any extra parts.

I don't have any extra drawers lying around, so I'm guessing only the 30" drawer FRONTS are packaged together. The drawers themselves must be sold separately. I just didn't order the 15" drawers or the partition. I *think*. It's been two years since i ordered, so maybe I've gone fuzzy

Good luck!

[congener47]

Thanks for your encouragement on the mods, DulcineaK and jenb. I've poured over my draft order (attached) and I'm hoping an article wizard can double check my understanding and help me with a few questions.

Items 1-4 are for the W1839 wall cab over the sink.
Items 5-8 are for the two W3039 wall cabs on the short wall.
Items 9-12 are for the two W3639 wall cabs on the long wall.
Items 13-15 are for the WFR3018 wall cab over the MW on the short wall.
Items 16-18 are for the WRD3615 wall cab over the refrigerator.

It's the base cabs with mods where things seem to get sticky...

Items 19-24 are for the 30-inch sink cab with "pollyq" pullout for trash/recycling. I am thinking I don't need items 20 & 21. I think I need item 22 to be two 15 x 30 inch doors, not 15 x 24. And I need a drawer partition too, right? -- if so and anyone can supply the article number, I would be grateful.

Items 25-32 seem to be for the three B4D30 cabs (to right of sink, on end of short wall and on island). In order for each cab to have a single 30-inch drawer, I get six extra 15-inch drawer fronts (which I should be able to return). Is there anything else extra here, or do I need it all?

Items 33-38 are for the B4D18 four-drawer stack on the island.
Items 39-44 are for the B36 blind corner cab that will have the Lee Valley pull-out. I think Item 46 is for the legs that go with the corner cab.

Items 45 and 47-49 are for the cab with cooktop over wall oven, on the short wall. Should I order the components for a possible 30-inch wide drawer to go under the wall oven (cooktop only 2-1/4 inch pan depth and oven cutout 28-1/4 high)? If so, what are the article numbers I need? If a drawer is not possible, then is Item 47 extra?

Items 50-54 are for the two 24-inch wide, 12-inch deep base cabs on the island that face the dining area. Shouldn' t all these quantities be doubled for two cabinets?

Items 55-58 are supposed to be for the refrig surround panels to make it look built in (the Ikean's idea, not sure if there will be enough room), the cover panels for two sides of the island, and the cover panels for the end of the short wall (base and wall cabinets). Are these 8 panels correct for those locations?
Items 59 and 60 are 3 plinths and 3 suspension rails. I'm assuming these are correct for what I need too. Do I need to order filler for the blind corner, or might there be leftover plinth or cover panels for that?

DH and I left at closing and after 2-1/2 hours in kitchens I was exhausted. And very glad it was still a draft order! Your help is greatly appreciated.

congener47

[torrus]

1. W1839 OK
2. W3039, W3639 - it would be unusual to have more than three selves in a 39" wall cabinet, but as the shelves are in packs of two - you will have extra shelves - I would order 3 @ 645.793.10 and 445.794.10 (not a big deal $-wise, but why have extra shelves?)
3. If you are using a micro/fan combo - typically a WFR3024 would be used over the cooktop
4. You need the drawer partition in order to have the dual pull-outs under the sink (art# 000.489.26) - the 15x24" doors imply that you are installing the 15" drawer fronts at the top - so they are necessary. You can salvage two 15" d/fronts from the 30" four-pack (for the B3D30)
5. For the B3D30 you don't need art# 600.621.51
6. For the modified B36 you need one set of legs.
7. For the cooktop/wall oven cab. you don't need the 30x40" panel...usually a 30" shallow d/front provides more than enough filler material (unless the wall oven is 27" wide). You won't have enough space for a functional drawer in the combo.
8. You are missing one W2430 for the island. note: you can now order single 24x30" doors, if that is a look that you desire.
9. Your fridge cabinet is only 15" high - unless the fridge is unusally tall a WRD 3624 will be a better fit. The 3x8" panels will alow the fridge and cabinet be 'built in' - by bumping the cabinet out to line up with the front of the fridge.
10. The cut-offs from the fridge panels can be used as fillers (especially in the corner between the wall and base cabinets).
11. I would order 4 toekicks so that all pieces are continuous.
12. You need some countertop support between the dishwasher and fridge gable...you can use the cut-off from the gable and then attach plywood cleats on the back and side of the DW.

Hope this helps

[kelly]

I love you.

[DulcineaK]

article #s are the way to my heart

[congener47]

Thanks, Torrus. I really appreciate you taking the time to look at my draft order. This site rocks!

[congener47]

Torrus,
Just realized I should better understand your last point about countertop support between DW and fridge. Is the gable a piece I will get in this order, or something else I will need to obtain? Feel free to direct me to threads if this has been covered elsewhere. I looked briefly in the installing subforum but didn't come across this topic.

Thanks,
congener47

[why]

I haven't posted in response before.... First, I don't know what 'lee valley' is? However, I might have the answer to some of your other issues. Looked at your draft and they are right the fronts for deep drawer 30" units (B4D30) are only sold in the "4-pack". The good news is that since it looks like you have a 30" sink base you can use two of the 'extra' 15" drawers above the 24" high doors. So delete #20069970 (#2) from your order. Also since you are now creating a B3D30, you should not need the rail under the top drawer (I didn't write down that article number). Doesn't look like they added 6 15" Rationell drawers to your order (they would be needed should you want to build three B4D30 cabinets).
I could not open your plan and look your 'corner issue'. But you do need to have clearance to be able to pull out/open cabinets that are set at right angles to each other. How much room? It depends on how far out your handles project.