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Old Feb 10th, 07, 2:00 am   #1
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Ikea announces kitchen cabinets to soon be made by SAUDER (nooooooooooooo!)

http://www.positivefanatics.com/2007..._to_produ.html

I sure hope they aren't now going for the Walmart/Target-esq quality that every piece of Sauder furniture that I've thrown away has displayed.

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thanks snookums.

for not so good news.

but i'm going to hope that they'll still be building to ikea standards...

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So, the cabinets for North America were all made in Europe or a single source? This could simply be a strategy to improve service to our continent. Also, not sure how Sauder is doing, might be a deal that has them retool their entire production line- you as said- to IKEA standards. If they can overcome the reality (and the very important perception) of poor quality, this could be a lifesaver for both companies.

Thanks for the info!!

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Okay, the article said they will start manufacturing the frames and the shelves. Since IKEA loves to tout how strong their shelves are I can't imagine them accepting lower quality. This is just probably IKEAs way of reducing shipping costs even more, as now the boxes are made in eastern Europe.

If Sauder was making the hardware, then I would get nervous!

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I just hope they don't end up having to recall the frames for "quality issues" ... (do the words Hallarum and Nexus BB ring a bell?)

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By mid-year, Sauder Woodworking Co. plans to start manufacturing frames and shelves for kitchen cabinetry sold by the Sweden-based home-furnishings retailer Ikea, under a contract Kevin Sauder, president and chief executive officer, said he hopes will be "the first of many."
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Mr. Sauder said the contract, announced yesterday, resulted from seven months of working with Ikea on specifications for the components, made until now in Eastern Europe.
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For now anyway, Sauder will not make the actual cabinets, but rather "the guts" that go into them," the CEO said.

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Old Feb 10th, 07, 6:37 pm  
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Hi.

This is terrible news. Of all the cab boxes I got they were all made in Armenia. They spec right to the cue. For kitchen cabinets this is a must. Those Target Sauder stuff just wont cut it even tho they make the same type of particle board faced stuff.

I guess I am kind of lucky I bought them before they went wire. I sure hope these hinges and door fronts dont go the same route. IMHO , that will only destroy the quality branding products IKEA has already established.

If I read correctly, the packaging cut boards are all made in China. Does that mean they shipped those cut boards from China to Eastern Europe and then package contents there then shipped the whole thing to U.S.A. ?

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hinges are made by Blum Hardware, i don't imagine that will change.
And IKEA isn't going to accept a lower quality from Sauder. And even though Sauder has a (deservedly) bad name they can make quality, it's just everytime i've seen something higher quality from them it doesn't sell at there price point they set. This might be a good thing in the end. They'll retool, that factory will get busy and create more jobs. I would imagine the Eastern European factories would still operate to fulfill the market in that area.
I'm going to look at this as a necessary growth and ikea has always been good about building upon experience, their quality tends to go up while their prices go down.

let's not sit around like a bunch of chicken littles. the sky isn't falling folks

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Anyone know when this will hit the stores?

I have been patrolling this site (which is fantastic - to the users and the creators of this site - you guys rock!) for a few months now. My wife and I have been planning and budgeting for our kitchen remodel and are almost in a position to start making purchases. We were sooo pleasantly surpised and relieved to know that we didnt have to go with the 9k Kraftmaid cabinets to get nice quality cabinets for our kitchen (our Ikea estimate is currently about 4k).

This news concerns me a bit.... I work for a manufacturing company and I know that it is NOT uncommon for quality to take a hit when a new supplier is contracted (because they have simply not done or have experience on what exactly needs to be set up/operations for consistent quality to be produced for the new product). I would agree the sky isn't falling but I would consider the forecast to be cloudy until we actually see sunny skies.

All that said, does anyone know how long I have to make a purchase and still get the "old" stock?

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Hi Rob and Welcome to IKEAFANS! Thanks for the compliment - it's always so nice to hear positive feedback. Thank you.

My concern about Sauder taking over is what Rob said about there being a difficulty in getting up to speed, but more than that would be the concern that a North American company taking over production for North America will not keep to the ultra-stringent German standards for off-gassing and so forth. Hopefully IKEA's committment to the environment will take precedence over any cost savings in this area. We need green.

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